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King Corn wins battle at UN

Biofuels - ReportonBusiness.com - June 9, 2008

NOTE: Below is only an excerpt, but you can read the whole article by clicking the link above.

"ROME -- All hail the mighty American corn cob!

American corn was the biggest winner of the United Nations food summit in Rome last week. It wasn't supposed to be. Many countries and aid agencies - Egypt, Venezuela, Oxfam, even the director-general of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization - came into the summit with corn, the de facto international symbol of the biofuels industry, in their gunsights.

They lost the gun fight. After three days of squabbling, the UN's final declaration did absolutely nothing to halt, even slow, the rise of the biofuels industry. Turning food into fuel was, in effect, sanctioned by the very UN food agencies that had called the summit to find solutions to the food crisis. People can go hungry. But heaven forbid that you can't find biofuels to fill your tank.

The outcome couldn't have made corn farmers happier. On Thursday, the day the UN yak-fest expired with a whimper, American corn prices rose to a record high. Corn for delivery in 2009, when one-third of the crop is expected to be consumed by the ethanol industry, reached a record $6.83 (U.S.) a bushel on the Chicago spot market.

That's about 250 per cent higher than the 2006 price.

Commodities analysts said corn would have taken a dive had the summit's biofuels fight gone the other way."
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I REALLY want you to read this again, "Turning food into fuel was, in effect, sanctioned by the very UN food agencies that had called the summit to find solutions to the food crisis."

Are you getting this? The UN would rather have a food supply go to fuel...

"Corn for delivery in 2009, when one-third of the crop is expected to be consumed by the ethanol industry" Does the rest of the World not know that Our Government MANDATES that one-third of the crop goes to the ethanol industry? I'd say, YEP! Pretty much on-third is expected to be consumed alright, it is safe to print that...

I do this as a passion now, but the more I learn, the more angry I get about this scam...

Government Mandates Corn Growth/Yield Usage.

Press Releases: PR Newswire: Oil/energy-Posted on Tue, Jun. 10, 2008

Food Before Fuel Campaign Launches With Goal of Encouraging Congress to Revisit Food-To-Fuel Policies -By Food Before Fuel

NOTE: Below is only an excerpt, but you can read the whole article by clicking the link above.

"Congressional policies mandate the conversion of more than one-third of all U.S. corn to ethanol, with additional subsidies and tariffs further promoting the diversion of food to fuel. Food policy experts broadly agree that these policies have contributed to record food price inflation, and the International Monetary Fund reports that U.S. food-to-fuel policy is responsible for more than 30 percent of food price inflation globally."
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I agree with others (videos too) that if Ethanol is such a great idea, why does our Government have to MANDATE the growing of our fields, and why does MY TAX MONEY (yeah, that would be yours too) have to subsidize the whole Ethanol/E85 fiasco.

So, let me try to summarize my thought pattern here, and see if you agree, or if I am full of it...
Some of my and your tax dollars subsidize and support, with the mandate from our Government, to produce and promote a product I don't agree with, has no real cost savings (in reality I am being kind it has a negative cost savings as it is typically only 25% cheaper, and as much as 33% less mpg), cost an average of 1.3 gallons of regular gasoline to produce 1 gallon of the ethanol product, and recently may have proved actually has a larger green gas footprint than fossil fuel.

The real thing that pisses me off about that last paragraph (and should you too) is that it cost an average of 1.3 gallons of regular gas to produce 1 gallon of ethanol!!!!!!

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT I COULD HAVE 1300 GALLONS OF GAS FREED UP IF WE DID NOT MAKE 1000 GALLONS OF ETHANOL??? I think this might help lower gas prices, you think???

*sigh* Man, people, start thinking about this stuff instead of jumping on the latest band wagon.

Even Cars.com Weighs In -

- Article is from "Kicking Tires-the blog for car buyers", from cars.com

"Gas-Saving Moment of the Day: Avoid E85"
"Not only has E85 been oversold as a clean fuel, but if you insist on filling your vehicle with the 85% ethanol blend, you'll also be losing money at the pump. This is because while E85 costs less than regular gasoline, your engine doesn’t burn it as efficiently. As of Friday, AAA's Fuel Gauge Report puts the average price of E85 at $3.284 a gallon (well below the price of gas, which was $3.962 on Friday), but it adjusts the price based on the fuel’s lost efficiency compared to gasoline.

The actual average price when you factor in E85’s poor fuel economy? $4.321 per gallon. Hardly a deal, right?

Of course, some Midwestern states, like Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota, have taken to not only subsidizing corn production for ethanol, but also subsidizing the fuel at the pump, thus lowering the cost further. Still, according to E85Prices.com, the greatest spread between ethanol and gasoline prices right now is the 28% difference in South Dakota. This is one of just two states in the country where the adjusted average price of ethanol ($3.794) is lower than the average price of gasoline in that state ($3.890). The other is Colorado, where the difference is 26%. The next closest is New York with a 24% spread, so while gasoline's average cost is $3.87 a gallon there, ethanol's adjusted price comes to $3.98."

Let's Start Off With Some Ethanol (E85) Facts...

Here are some indisputable facts about E85 and ethanol in general.

NOTE: These relate to cars that were specifically designed for E85 or FlexFuel use. Trying to use E85 or FlexFuel with a regular unleaded gasoline engine will cause severe issues to the engine...do not use unless vehicle is manufactured for the use of it.

The Advantages of E85

- High octane rating (about 105 oct) resulting in 5-10% increase in horsepower

- 15-25% reduction in greenhouse gas emission

- 25% lower cost

- Part throttle acceleration greatly improved

- Lower risk of CO2 poisoning

- E85 evaporates easier and cools intake charge dramatically better

The Disadvantages of E85

- Ethanol is corrosive to many materials: aluminum (fuel lines, pumps, engine internals, intake manifolds, carburettors, pistons, cylinder heads etc), thermoset plastics (epoxy/resin), natural rubber (fuel lines, seals), cork (seals), terne (tin-lead-steel alloy)

- Hydroscopic, or corrosive nature enhanced by presence of water

- Conductive of electricity (corrosion by galvanization effect)

- Cold start problems at temperatures under 50 degrees ºF (+10ºC)

- Less energy content by mass than gasoline (E85: 12,500 BTU/lb, gasoline: 19,000 BTU/lb)

- 35% more fuel needed to burn

- At least 25% reduction in mileage: theoretical 33% reduction (discrepancy because of cooling ability of fuel on lean mixtures)

Ok. Right from the very start, let me ask you this question:
If it cost 25% less money, but gives you at least a 25% reduction in mileage...
WHERE ARE THE SAVINGS?!?!?!?

So it burns hotter (higher octane) and less emissions. These seem to be the redeeming qualities. HOWEVER - the fact is it takes more energy to produce ethanol from corn than it does gasoline from crude oil, SO THERE GOES ANY GREEN HOUSE GAS SAVINGS TOO!

- Absolutely more to come, E85 is just wrong all around.